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November 19th, 2005 under Christianity, Church and State, Politics

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Stories like the one below are really problematic for me. Christian parents sued a school district because a teacher encouraged students to pretend to be Muslims for three weeks. I’ve written on this issue several times, but this case provides a real example of why my Baptist brothers and sisters need to make a stand for the separation of church and state. Debates about whether or not we are a “Christian nation” are really irrelevant to this discussion. The fact is that in theory, we live in a democracy. I’m not getting real technical here for a reason. Anyway, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. In fact, nearly 80 percent of the more than 1,200 mosques in the U.S. have been built in the past 12 years. What happens if there become certain areas in this country where the dominant religion is Islam? Can Muslims in that area impose their religion on the “minority” religions?

I think the answer to this problem is to listen to the teaching of Jesus (go figure). Remember Matthew 7:12? “So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.”

Seems so easy for me. I know that some Christians would be outraged at the story below. Their children should not be forced to act out another religion! Why is it OK for Christians to do that to others?

SAN FRANCISCO - Christian students and parents cannot sue a school district where some seventh-graders pretended to be Muslims for three weeks during a course in world history, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the role-playing game was not a religious exercise that violated anybody’s constitutional rights.

The decision was issued one day after the U.S. House of Representatives chastised the 9th Circuit for ruling earlier this month that parents can’t sue public schools for providing information about sex. That decision “deplorably infringed on parental rights,” said the House resolution.
Thursday’s decision came down in an unpublished memorandum, indicating the judges considered it routine.

They reviewed the method used by one teacher in Byron, Contra Costa County, four years ago to teach the unit on Muslim history, culture and religion that is part of the state’s seventh-grade history curriculum.

Brooke Carlin encouraged her students to play at being Muslims - adopt Muslim names, recite a line from a prayer and give up candy or television to simulate fasting, for example. Students were permitted to opt out. On the final exam they were asked to critique elements of Muslim culture.

Jonas and Tiffany Eklund sued, along with their children. San Francisco U.S. District Judge Phyllis Hamilton dismissed the suit two years ago, saying Carlin was merely teaching and not indoctrinating. Hamilton found that the students did not engage in actual religious exercises.

The 9th Circuit upheld her decision in a five-sentence ruling, saying only that the activities weren’t “overt religious exercises” that would raise concerns under the First Amendment prohibition of “establishment of religion.”

Senior Circuit Judge Dorothy Nelson of Pasadena and Circuit Judges Johnnie Rawlinson of Las Vegas and Carlos Bea of San Francisco signed the decision.

The unpublished memo format indicates the appellate judges did not believe they were breaking legal ground. Unpublished decisions cannot be cited in future cases.

But Edward White, who represents the Eklunds on behalf of the Thomas More Law Center in Ann Arbor, Mich., called the ruling “an opinion without any precedent.”

He said the judges overlooked arguments he made about parental rights and freedom to exercise the religion one chooses.

Thanks to Stop the ACLU for this story!


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[ # 114 ] Comment from joe kennedy [November 19, 2005, 3:14 am]

see this is the deal. to a lot of folks, it’s a culture issue. they want to “show the kids different and unique cultures” so they won’t be culturally illiterate. the problem is that western christians don’t have a sense of unity. there is no true “christian culture” like there is with most muslims. and even if there were, christianity would still be considered a religion issue, not a cultural one, because most of those folks consider themselves “christian.” even when they don’t have a clue. let’s face it- there’s no point teaching kids about megachurches and the american christian subculture we see in them. all this is just a conglomneration of random thoughts. i guess all i’m saying is, if we were more interesting, well, maybe people would care to learn about us. yeah i don’t know. but the history and spread of islam, along with the middle eastern culture, is incredibly interesting to me. just like the mongols, japanese, and chinese history. and the “dark ages” of europe. so maybe, i guess, what we do is we teach the kids about ancient judaism. just like we teach islam through middle eastern history, or hinduism and buddhism through south asian history.

i mean, look, it just seems to me that the kids should get an impartial HISTORY of it all, with an understanding of the contexts. my guess is you won’t have a lot of kids running to islam, which i assume is the thought of those christians suing. well, quite frankly, i’m pretty certain that their kids make horrible christians too. very few american middle and high schoolers understand the reality and weight of following Christ. crap, most adults don’t get it. so if they’re scared their kids will go all muslim, they should rest assured, it’s harder to be a muslim than a christian. unless they have to make it to mass. and have to pray the same prayer seventeen times over. and have to take communion every other day. and have to confess their sins often because if they don’t, they risk eternal damnation. you know, or they have to show up to the wednesday service, the monday night service, the sunday service (all three of them). have i digressed?

back to the point. history is good. different cultures are good. most folks are just upset that theirs isn’t as interesting as others, because they’re not really living it out like Christ would have them.

ugh.

[ # 123 ] Comment from Jimmie W. Kersh [November 25, 2005, 8:48 am]

Howie,

I was turned on to yur site in the last week or so. I just wanted to say we actually live in a
represntitive republic and not a democracy. I do not trust people enough to live in a democracy. People in out ccountry are not educated well enough to be allowed to live in a democracy.

Have a great one, Howie.

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