Howie Luvzus

Give me a break! I bet his bed is cold! I would rather be a “closet feminist” and enjoy my marriage than the crap he suggests!

Yes, you’ve really turned the tables on mean Christians.

“I hope Shirley never meets Russell Moore. Trust me, she would kick his a$$!”

“What a jerk!”

“I knew several jerks that felt the “call” and went to seminary without their wives’ “blessing.””

“Russell Moore is an idiot!”

“He wants your kids to be violent (see below) and your wives to be mindless fools.”

I guess meanness doesn’t count when you’re the one being that way.

“Seeking to find the grace to love them…” ?

Guess you’d better keep lookin’ there, chief.

“Baptist Leader Russell Moore Wants to Destroy Your Marriage!”

So, you disagree with him. Strongly. But why print a lie as your title?

If it’s for humorous effect, I’m pretty sure the humor will be lost on anyone who doesn’t hold your ravings here to be self-evidently true.

And you filed this under “Walking Like Jesus” ?

Howie, once again you have mischaracterized remarks made by Moore — as you did with his comments on violence in the Bible (do you remember that you agreed with me that you might have misunderstood some of his intent?). Moore is not suggesting that women should have no opinion. He is noting that the Bible does not teach mutual submission, nor does it teach weakness in men. That does not conflict with ideas of equality. I think you have misconstrued what Moore is trying to say and have turned it into something that is more a false accusation than an accurate representation. In fact, the phrase he used “a process of negotiation, mutual submission, and consensus,” is not to broken into parts. He is speaking of one process involving all three aspects. He is not declaring that men should not inquire some sort of consensus from their wives. He is saying that decision-making in the home should not undergo a process that begins with negotiation, involves mutual submission, and ends with consensus, but rather begins with male headship and ends with complementarianism, a Biblical model that we see repeated throughout Scripture.

In regards to Kevin’s comments, I think his wife would disagree. Being around him the limited amount I have, I can still see a very warm and loving relationship that he and his wife share. And she in no pushover, as one who disagrees with him might think, She is in fact a strong woman who has endured a great deal of personal and family tragedy and who ministers to many, many women.

And as far as your final sentence Howie, I am very disappointed in you for writing it. It is beneath your character to do so. I think you should consider a retraction.

DR. I was wrong for saying it. I was trying to be funny. It was not!

Kevin, I appreciate your response back to me. I understand the difficulty in relating either humor or sarcasm on blogposts. But it is much more difficult to have humility in doing so, which is what you have communicated to me in your response. So I hope my initial comment did not offend you, but I do thank you.

Russell Moore actually gave the address to my class at orientation and he actually told men that if they were in seminary and their wives were miserable that it was their (the men) fault (my summary). He exhorted men to listen to their wives and keep their wives and families first. He encouraged the men to give their wives children if they desired them and not make them wait to start life until after seminary. He and the other professors I have had have all promoted men putting their schooling last and even on hold in order to serve and love their families.