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Mark Gstohl’s Take on Southern Baptist Convention
June 13th, 2008 under Baptists, Christian Crap, Christianity, ChristianWalk, Church and State, Hypocrisy, Walking Like Jesus. [ Comments: 4 ]

My friend Mark Gstohl has an article at Religion Dispatches Blog about the Southern Baptist resolution on Christmas.

That guy’s not only cool. He’s also pretty smart.


Baptist Pastor Threatened
May 15th, 2008 under Baptists, Christian Crap, Christianity, ChristianWalk, Church and State, Hypocrisy, Politics, Walking Like Jesus. [ Comments: 2 ]

cross1.jpgOnce again, Bruce Prescott alerted me to the following:

DeLand pastor gets threats after removing U.S. flag from church

A local church pastor who removed the U.S. flag from the church sanctuary has taken a leave of absence after receiving harassing and threatening notes — including one left in his hymnbook in the church, police and church officials said.

An investigation is ongoing into at least three notes sent to Rev. Sean Oliver Allen of First Baptist Church of DeLand, 725 N. Woodland Blvd., said DeLand police Lt. Pete Moon.

“We are looking at it criminally and working to determine if there is any criminal intent behind the letters,” Moon said.

Rev. Allen consulted with church elders and decided to take a four-week leave after receiving the latest note in the mailbox of his DeLand home on May 1, said Education Pastor John Long.

The note said, “Resign this Sunday or else,” according to a DeLand police report.

Here’s what I did…I wrote the following letter and sent it to ministers in the area:

I recently read an article about pastor Sean Allen of First Baptist Church of DeLand that stated that he had received threats for removing the American Flag and the Christian flag from the church sanctuary. Whether or not you agree with what Rev. Allen did, it would be a nice gesture for you to support him during this difficult time.

As an ordained Southern Baptist minister it pains me to see my brother being threatened. I’ve sent him an encouraging email. However, I think that you have a tremendous opportunity to show support to your brother in Christ. I humbly offer a few suggestions for you.

First, mention this in Sunday’s sermon. Condemn the un-Christian attitude of a person that would issue an anonymous threat. Challenge your congregation to pray for Rev. Allen and the person(s) who threatened him. Pray for his congregation that they would seek to glorify Christ in all they do.

Next, consider an act of solidarity. The article clearly states why Allen chose to remove the flags. Any reasonable person could see why one might see having an American flag in a sanctuary could send a wrong signal. A Christian’s ultimate allegiance should be to Christ, not a country. Allen’s brave act should be honored. Christ’s obedience also resulted in persecution. This could be an opportunity to show that following Christ is not easy, and that doing the right thing sometimes is costly.

I appreciate you taking the time to read and consider my suggestions. May God continue to bless your ministry.

For this reason I kneel before the Father, from whom his whole family in heaven and on earth derives its name. I pray that out of his glorious riches he may strengthen you with power through his Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, may have power, together with all the saints, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.
Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen.

Let’s see how they respond!


McCain’s Wacko Preacher Buddy
May 8th, 2008 under Christian Crap, Church and State, FoxNews, Politics. [ Comments: none ]

Why doesn’t Faux News, MSNCB, CNN, etc. Play this?

“America was founded, in part, to see this false religion destroyed.”

“America has historically understood herself to be a bastion against Islam in the world.”

“We get off on warfare!”


Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary Leases Land to the Republican Party!
February 13th, 2008 under Baptists, Christian Crap, Christianity, ChristianWalk, Church and State, Hypocrisy, Politics, violence, Walking Like Jesus. [ Comments: 10 ]

pattersonpaige.jpgThere’s currently a lawsuit filed against Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary by a former female Old Testament prof who was fired by seminary president Paige Patterson. She charges that Patterson discriminated against her because she is a woman. Not surprisingly, she argues that when Patterson became president of SWBTS, he assured her that her job was safe, only to fire her later. Patterson lie? How can that be.

Equally disturbing as the fact that Patterson was quoted the following about women, “everyone should own one.” A phrase every Southerner knows used to be said about African-Americans (and probably still is)…is the fact that the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary leases property to the Republican Party. I can’t imagine how many of my Baptist forefathers and foremothers are rolling over in their graves right now. Misogyny—-yeah that’s terrible, but not really too unexpected. Church state issues—wow! But I’m honestly not too surprised.

Here’s a link to the lawsuit.

Here’s a link to discussion about the lawsuit at the SBC Outpost. The comments there are always a hoot!

Nevermind! Don’t waste your time at the Outpost. Not one reaction to the seminary leasing to the Republican Party.

Seems only Bruce Prescott and a guy named Mark Gstohl really care about the church/state issue.


Huckabee Scares the Crap Out of Me
January 16th, 2008 under Baptists, Christian Crap, Church and State, Politics. [ Comments: 1 ]

huck.jpgHe recently said:
“I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution. But I believe it’s a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And thats what we need to do is amend the Constitution so it’s in God’s standards rather than trying to change God’s standards so it lines up with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family.”

Wonder what he thinks about Exodus 21:7-11?

7″If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do.
8″If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her.
9″If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters.
10″If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.
11″If he will not do these three things for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without payment of money.

I thought the founding fathers were Christians? Why doesn’t it mention God or Jesus?


The Price of Atheism: Update
July 11th, 2007 under ChristianWalk, Church and State, Uncategorized, violence. [ Comments: 1 ]

For some reason I can’t imbed YouTube videos in my site.

Please take a look at this 20/20 story about a young girl in Oklahoma who is being harrassed by students and teachers because she doesn’t believe in God.

God forgive us who fail to stand up for those who are abused by narrow-minded jerks who think they are Christians.

Update: View the “Christian” reaction to a Hindu chaplain at the Senate. See why folks hate “Christians”?


Sweet Land of Liberty?
July 2nd, 2007 under ChristianWalk, Church and State, Politics, Social Issues, violence. [ Comments: 1 ]

us-jesus.gifThey sang My Country, ‘Tis of Thee in my church this past Sunday. There were other patriotic songs as well. As one who identifies with the Radical Reformers, I’m really not too excited about doing anything other than focusing on worship during my worship time. Go figure.

Am I thankful for the freedoms I have in this country? Yes.

Am I grateful to those who have sacrificed to make my freedom possible? Very much so.

But, as I heard the congregation sing “sweet land of liberty” ( I had excused myself during the patriotic singing, I know. I’m a jerk.) I could only think of one thing…

A picture of Jesus hanging in the Slidell City Court House. Yep, the ACLU wants the picture removed. You can read all the hateful comments at the NOLA.COM website if you wish. It seems that some folks are so adamant about having a picture of Jesus in their courthouse that they are downright Un-Christian about it!

Here’s a brief example:

Screw all them aclu liberal a__holes! Don’t give into such bull! Hold your ground, let em sue! Who the hell are they anyway! Lets round all those card carrying bafoons up and send them to Iraq where they can become the latest statistics……………..

Nothing better to do, well lets give them card carrying liberals something to do……………………………….

Unamerican all of them. Kill em all and let the good Lord sort em out is what real God fearing southerners say……………….

How can that be? How can folks that are so pro-Jesus be so mean? Maybe they don’t believe in the ideals of America or of Jesus. Jesus never forced his views on anyone. He told us we should love our enemies and turn the other cheek. He said that if someone demanded your coat, offer them your shirt too! He said this just before he said do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

I really don’t want to go into a public building, paid for by my tax dollars, and see a picture of Mohammed, Buddha, or Ganesha. Why should it be OK for Jesus to be there?

If we are the land of the free, why do some of us (who are supposed to love our neighbors) insist on imposing our faith traditions on others in a public building. If my faith tradition is doing such a crappy job of telling others about Jesus, why should we rely on a government entity to do so? In fact, isn’t using our government to promote Jesus a bit like Bill Clinton being a spokesman for a cigar company? Something’s just not right about that is it?

For me, being a good Christian and a good American means standing up for the rights of ALL. Not just for Christians. If Christians have the right to hang their paintings up, the Muslims, Hindus, Jews and all other faith traditions have the right to as well.


Cheezy Campaign Sign
November 19th, 2006 under Church and State, Humor, New Orleans, Politics. [ Comments: 1 ]

Vinny Mendoza for Congress I found this campaign sign for Vinny Mendoza pretty funny. I think if you listen closely you can hear Lee Greenwood singing “Proud to Be an American.” In fact, if you go to his website you’ll hear “Amazing Grace.”

Vinny didn’t do too well in the congressional race. Seems folks from Louisiana are more interested in letting a crook represent them (See NPR’s story on William “Dollar Bill” Jefferson) than a God-fearing Patriot like Vinny.

Vinny’s got a good idea though. I’m going to continue to pray for my country. Hope you will too!


Congressman Westmoreland Can’t Think of a Better Place than in a Judicial Building!
June 16th, 2006 under Baptists, Christianity, Church and State, Humor, Politics. [ Comments: none ]

WestmoorlandRepublican Congressman Lynn Westmoreland was interviewed on the Colbert Report a couple of nights ago and it reminded me of something. Watch the video–it’s very funny!

When I used to teach at a Baptist seminary I would often begin my lecture on Baptist distinctives by giving the seminary students a quiz. Here it is:

For 10 points each, list the 10 Commandments in order.
For 10 bonus points, list the scriptural reference.
A related issue: Do you believe that school officials (teacher, principal, etc.) should lead students in prayer every morning? (No points will be added or deducted)

Guess what? I don’t remember the statistics, but they were pretty awful. When I began to discuss whether the 10 Commandments should be posted in a classroom, I think the tone of the rhetoric was squelched a bit. As those who argued for the inclusion of the 10 Commandments in the classroom spoke, I would thumb through the quizzes to see their answers.

My final response was usually something like: “I agree with you. The 10 Commandments need to be in all classrooms because the church is doing a pretty poor job of educating folks.”

Then I would ask for a show of hands of those who prayed with their kids before sending them off to school. The numbers were always staggeringly low. Then I would thumb through the quizzes again and say: “Seems like we need prayer in schools too since we seem to be neglecting to teach our kids to start off their day with a prayer!”

Then I would ask—“Why is it that we want the government to do what we are to lazy to do?” “Why should it be the school’s job to instill religious values in our kids that we don’t hold?”

As you might guess, when I began to explain further why it is a good idea for the church to do religious stuff and the state to do state stuff, I had a lot less arguments from hotheads.

Such was life teaching theology in a Baptist seminary. You can’t just begin a discussion and expect civility and respect. You have to prepare students to understand the ramifications of their views before you examine them.

Man, I miss those days. Sometimes.


Bill Targets Protests at Military Funerals
May 27th, 2006 under Christian Crap, Church and State, Hypocrisy, Politics. [ Comments: 5 ]

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Demonstrators would be barred from disrupting military funerals at national cemeteries under legislation approved by Congress and sent to the White House.

The measure, passed by voice vote in the House hours after the Senate acted, specifically targets a Kansas church group that has staged protests at military funerals around the country, claiming that the deaths were a sign of God’s anger at U.S. tolerance of homosexuals.

The act “will protect the sanctity of all 122 of our national cemeteries as shrines to their gallant dead,” said Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.).

Fred Phelps doesn’t really deserve this attention, but I think it’s the right thing to do. I know, as a strong proponent of the separation of church and state and free speech I seem like a hypocrite. But in my old age, I’m getting a lot more mellow.

One of my heroes, Will Campbell was a participant in a debate on the death penalty. After listening to his opponent explain why putting persons to death was Biblical and reasonable, Campbell was asked to present his case. He simply said, “I think it’s tacky.”

Amen Will. I think the death penalty is tacky too. Unless maybe it’s for Fred Phelps! (Just kidding!) But surprisingly, I think that flag burning and protesting at military funerals is tacky too. I don’t get offended if you burn a flag. However, a lot of folks who sacrificed a lot do get upset. Because of this, I think it’s best to display your dissatisfaction with the country in another way. Bitch and complain all you want. I’ll probably join in. But a lot of nice folks hate to see the flag being burned. There, I said it. Guess I’m not such a tree huggin’ liberal after all.

Protesting at any funeral is also tacky. Leave poor grieving families alone! If it takes an act of Congress to get Phelps to shut up then so be it. I know the slippery slope argument. Forget about it. We’ve already given up way too much of our personal freedoms to start complaining now.


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